Comments on: Number Crunch my Fun plzkthx! http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/ Offline Commentary for Online Worlds. Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:03:47 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kevin http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/comment-page-1/#comment-96 Kevin Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:06:13 +0000 http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/#comment-96 Yep...I just can't help it I guess. Definitely the game has to be fun and draw me in with it's graphics, story, design elements, etc. But once I'm hooked by the game, I'll definitely get to that point where I'll start to look at data and want to min/max a bit. You want your character to be the "best" he can be. I guess you can get into debates about what is "best", especially if the designers did a good job of balancing classes, skills, abilities, talents, etc. The best of all possible worlds would be a game where you couldn't make yourself gimp - that every patch, branching path and skill tree was equally viable, just different (Anyway Games talks about this a bit in his most recent post fyi). But I have yet to see a game truly pull that off - usually a majority of people will agree that a certain build or spec is "best" for the class's role. Yep…I just can’t help it I guess. Definitely the game has to be fun and draw me in with it’s graphics, story, design elements, etc. But once I’m hooked by the game, I’ll definitely get to that point where I’ll start to look at data and want to min/max a bit. You want your character to be the “best” he can be. I guess you can get into debates about what is “best”, especially if the designers did a good job of balancing classes, skills, abilities, talents, etc. The best of all possible worlds would be a game where you couldn’t make yourself gimp – that every patch, branching path and skill tree was equally viable, just different (Anyway Games talks about this a bit in his most recent post fyi). But I have yet to see a game truly pull that off – usually a majority of people will agree that a certain build or spec is “best” for the class’s role.

]]> By: brackishwater http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/comment-page-1/#comment-93 brackishwater Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:41:43 +0000 http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/#comment-93 Of the three games I am playing right now, I only find myself checking stats and percentages on one of them. This is what I would call my "main" game and I play the others more for pleasure than accomplishment. The only way I can fight the urge to min max my characters in these casual games is by staying away from some of the class forums and spending little time in the /ooc channels. It seems the longer the game has been out, the more hard-line and prevalent are the class guides. More often than not, I spend the first few weeks of every game enjoying the setting and absorbing the story. This to me is the meat and potatoes of the game and if I can't get into this part of it, I won't waste my time. The more I like a game and the longer I play it, the greater the chance that I will take the time to learn all about the systems and find out how to make my character better. Its just how it is. Of the three games I am playing right now, I only find myself checking stats and percentages on one of them. This is what I would call my “main” game and I play the others more for pleasure than accomplishment. The only way I can fight the urge to min max my characters in these casual games is by staying away from some of the class forums and spending little time in the /ooc channels. It seems the longer the game has been out, the more hard-line and prevalent are the class guides.

More often than not, I spend the first few weeks of every game enjoying the setting and absorbing the story. This to me is the meat and potatoes of the game and if I can’t get into this part of it, I won’t waste my time. The more I like a game and the longer I play it, the greater the chance that I will take the time to learn all about the systems and find out how to make my character better. Its just how it is.

]]> By: Hailin http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Hailin Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:08:23 +0000 http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/#comment-92 Weird I had a comment all written up all pretty like and poof it disappeared. Thanks for the nod Kev and damn I am so in agreement with you. I found out today that my Profit UI had a built in linker for items and quests (I believe). Get an item you like look it up on Ala all with in EQ2. I hate it and love it all in the same. It's utter wonderful BS. I will not use it ever. /runs off to Norath to plug into Alakazam. Weird I had a comment all written up all pretty like and poof it disappeared.

Thanks for the nod Kev and damn I am so in agreement with you.

I found out today that my Profit UI had a built in linker for items and quests (I believe). Get an item you like look it up on Ala all with in EQ2. I hate it and love it all in the same. It’s utter wonderful BS. I will not use it ever. /runs off to Norath to plug into Alakazam.

]]> By: Hailin http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Hailin Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:59:42 +0000 http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/#comment-91 "Could I just jump into a character, never reading a forum, fan site, or guide, and just go for it and hope for the best? Just have fun without worrying what the folks next to me are doing? Could you?" Not on your life or mine. Imagine my surprise *How I didn't notice this earlier* that if I moused over an item in Profit UI. It would allow me to look up the item on Ala and various other sites, right in game. Luckily for me I didn't have anything special to look at, cause like you I would have been all over that. I know as much as I despise the feature I will be using as soon as an item pops where I must know every little thing about. Come to think about it it does it for quests too I think hmm. /runs off to EQ2 to read up on quests from in game. *now isn't that creepy* Thanks for the nod Kev. :) “Could I just jump into a character, never reading a forum, fan site, or guide, and just go for it and hope for the best? Just have fun without worrying what the folks next to me are doing? Could you?”

Not on your life or mine. Imagine my surprise *How I didn’t notice this earlier* that if I moused over an item in Profit UI. It would allow me to look up the item on Ala and various other sites, right in game. Luckily for me I didn’t have anything special to look at, cause like you I would have been all over that. I know as much as I despise the feature I will be using as soon as an item pops where I must know every little thing about. Come to think about it it does it for quests too I think hmm. /runs off to EQ2 to read up on quests from in game. *now isn’t that creepy*

Thanks for the nod Kev. :)

]]> By: pvthudson http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/comment-page-1/#comment-90 pvthudson Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:00:08 +0000 http://theserverisdown.com/2007/08/27/number-crunch-my-fun-plzkthx/#comment-90 I am not. I like to meet the base stats (490 def if Tank 1000 AP if Rogue) but other than that I wont be too much into all the extra numbers that people put out when they compare specs and things like that . Thank god for mods like Equip Compare and Ratings Buster that do the math for me I am not. I like to meet the base stats (490 def if Tank 1000 AP if Rogue) but other than that I wont be too much into all the extra numbers that people put out when they compare specs and things like that . Thank god for mods like Equip Compare and Ratings Buster that do the math for me

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